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coolers
#88
harry_bierdop Wrote:
buurs Wrote:
harry_bierdop Wrote:
buurs Wrote:
Ad Wim Wrote:Niet pushen preflop, maar op de flop, bedoel ik natuurlijk...
Als je al van plan bent om deze hand voor je stack te spelen, kun je maar beter meteen alles erin gooien, want na jouw call gaat ie een all-in van jou, bijv als je niet hit, natuurlijk nooit meer folden.

dus call ik.
heb nog 25 BB

als de turn niks was geweest en die gast zet mij all in, dan kies ik eieren voor mijn geld.

Ja dus snap je het odds verhaal al niet?


Je zal hier maar 1 op de 5 keer je straat hitten op de TURN. Je betaald dus 4 x 4,50 voor niks... en dan is het nog maar de vraag of je die ene keer dat je je straat hit je stack dubbelt.

dat is een betere uitleg.
Ik begrijp het odds verhaal wel, maar houdt er in dit soort situaties te weinig rekening mee.

Pre flop kan ik voor 1 dollar erbij in een pot van 6 de flop zien met 6/9s
ik krijg een leuke flop en die gast zet 3/4 pot.
ik call dus met 4,5 voor een pot van 15 met nog 16 outs... (turn/river)

zo zie ik het dus.

hier graag een relaxed commentaar op :8:

2 gigafouten:

1. Je telt je eigen calls al mee in de odds
2. je telt de river outs mee terwijl je zegt als je de turn mist je opgeeft!!

ik zei dat ik de hand opgeef, als die gast mij na de turn all in zou zetten.
"Hij heeft misschien nog weinig tegenstand, maar dat is wat anders. En ook niet waar trouwens".

Mooi van Isner, maar nu wel erg jammer dat Russell niet mee doet. Maar wel gunstig voor Querrey. Jammer dat Anderson niet doordrukte, maar dat kan Zeballos mooi doen.

Stunt Wawrinka zou leuk zijn, maar niet als ie vervolgens verliest van Djokovic. Maar als die dan weer verliest van Berdych, maakt het niet uit. Dus vannacht is inderdaad cruciaal.
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coolers - by Mac - 16-01-2008, 08:52 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 16-01-2008, 09:05 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 17-01-2008, 07:58 PM
Re: coolers - by BIERTEAM.NET - 25-01-2008, 06:07 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 04-02-2008, 08:57 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 04-02-2008, 09:11 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 05-02-2008, 08:32 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 07-02-2008, 08:11 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 12-02-2008, 01:21 AM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 16-02-2008, 06:40 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 16-02-2008, 06:45 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 16-02-2008, 07:53 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 16-02-2008, 08:00 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 24-02-2008, 03:09 PM
Re: coolers - by BIERTEAM.NET - 24-02-2008, 06:50 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 24-02-2008, 07:02 PM
Re: coolers - by BIERTEAM.NET - 24-02-2008, 07:36 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 24-02-2008, 09:25 PM
Re: coolers - by Mac - 29-02-2008, 09:17 PM
Re: coolers - by Mac - 29-02-2008, 09:49 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 01-03-2008, 10:36 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 01-03-2008, 11:36 PM
Re: coolers - by Jansoe - 02-03-2008, 07:23 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 03-03-2008, 10:43 AM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 03-03-2008, 10:54 AM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 03-03-2008, 08:39 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 04-03-2008, 09:58 AM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 04-03-2008, 10:56 AM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 05-03-2008, 05:01 PM
Re: coolers - by Mac - 05-03-2008, 05:06 PM
Re: coolers - by Treesong - 05-03-2008, 05:07 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 05-03-2008, 06:47 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 06-03-2008, 05:23 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 06-03-2008, 05:31 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 06-03-2008, 10:19 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 06-03-2008, 10:59 PM
Re: coolers - by Box Brother - 07-03-2008, 06:03 PM
Re: coolers - by Mac - 07-03-2008, 06:08 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 09-03-2008, 01:05 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 11-03-2008, 10:08 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 11-03-2008, 10:22 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 11-03-2008, 10:43 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 15-03-2008, 09:39 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 15-03-2008, 10:42 PM
Re: coolers - by Mac - 15-03-2008, 10:46 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 15-03-2008, 10:51 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 16-03-2008, 02:04 PM
Re: coolers - by Haggie - 20-03-2008, 04:07 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 20-03-2008, 04:25 PM
Re: coolers - by Haggie - 20-03-2008, 04:44 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 21-03-2008, 09:28 PM
Re: coolers - by Treesong - 22-03-2008, 02:45 AM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 23-03-2008, 04:12 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 23-03-2008, 07:23 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 23-03-2008, 07:36 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 23-03-2008, 09:15 PM
Re: coolers - by Mac - 23-03-2008, 09:19 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 25-03-2008, 10:19 AM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 25-03-2008, 10:34 AM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 28-03-2008, 02:07 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 28-03-2008, 02:10 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 28-03-2008, 02:11 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 28-03-2008, 02:12 PM
Re: coolers - by Treesong - 28-03-2008, 02:14 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 28-03-2008, 02:15 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 02:15 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 28-03-2008, 02:19 PM
Re: coolers - by Treesong - 28-03-2008, 02:25 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 02:25 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 02:26 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 28-03-2008, 02:30 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 28-03-2008, 02:31 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 28-03-2008, 02:33 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 28-03-2008, 02:35 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 02:36 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 28-03-2008, 02:37 PM
Re: coolers - by gittermaster - 28-03-2008, 02:37 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 02:38 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 02:39 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 28-03-2008, 02:42 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 02:43 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 28-03-2008, 02:43 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 02:46 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 28-03-2008, 02:47 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 02:48 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 28-03-2008, 02:49 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 02:50 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 28-03-2008, 02:50 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 02:52 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 28-03-2008, 02:52 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 02:53 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 28-03-2008, 02:54 PM
Re: coolers - by Treesong - 28-03-2008, 02:56 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 02:56 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 28-03-2008, 02:56 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 28-03-2008, 02:58 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 28-03-2008, 03:01 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 28-03-2008, 03:02 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 28-03-2008, 03:08 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 03:10 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 28-03-2008, 03:28 PM
Re: coolers - by Treesong - 28-03-2008, 03:30 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 28-03-2008, 03:34 PM
Re: coolers - by Treesong - 28-03-2008, 03:36 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 03:38 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 28-03-2008, 03:38 PM
Re: coolers - by Treesong - 28-03-2008, 03:45 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 28-03-2008, 03:46 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 03:52 PM
Re: coolers - by Treesong - 28-03-2008, 04:01 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 04:10 PM
Re: coolers - by Treesong - 28-03-2008, 04:19 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 04:25 PM
Re: coolers - by Treesong - 28-03-2008, 04:29 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 28-03-2008, 04:58 PM
Re: coolers - by BIERTEAM.NET - 28-03-2008, 05:26 PM
Re: coolers - by Mac - 28-03-2008, 06:36 PM
Re: coolers - by Treesong - 28-03-2008, 08:53 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 07-04-2008, 06:59 PM
Re: coolers - by Treesong - 08-04-2008, 10:13 AM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 08-04-2008, 10:36 AM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 02-05-2008, 10:39 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 02-05-2008, 11:27 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 02-05-2008, 11:29 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 02-05-2008, 11:32 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 02-05-2008, 11:33 PM
Re: coolers - by buurs - 02-05-2008, 11:34 PM
Re: coolers - by Ad Wim - 02-05-2008, 11:35 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 03-05-2008, 12:07 AM
Re: coolers - by Mac - 03-05-2008, 09:30 AM
Re: coolers - by Mac - 05-05-2008, 02:53 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 05-05-2008, 03:15 PM
Re: coolers - by Mac - 05-05-2008, 03:25 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 05-05-2008, 03:27 PM
Re: coolers - by Mac - 05-05-2008, 03:33 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 05-05-2008, 03:35 PM
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Re: coolers - by Mac - 08-05-2008, 11:03 AM
Re: coolers - by Treesong - 08-05-2008, 11:06 AM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 09-05-2008, 08:05 PM
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Re: coolers - by gittermaster - 28-05-2008, 06:38 PM
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Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 13-07-2009, 11:17 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 14-07-2009, 03:45 AM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 04-09-2009, 10:32 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 04-09-2009, 11:14 PM
Re: coolers - by gittermaster - 04-09-2009, 11:29 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 04-09-2009, 11:58 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 06-09-2009, 09:11 PM
Re: coolers - by Haggie - 09-09-2009, 12:41 PM
Re: coolers - by Haggie - 29-10-2009, 12:36 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 03-11-2009, 09:24 PM
Re: coolers - by gittermaster - 05-11-2009, 12:35 AM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 05-11-2009, 09:54 AM
Re: coolers - by gittermaster - 05-11-2009, 12:11 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 08-11-2009, 09:34 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 09-11-2009, 11:17 PM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 13-11-2009, 09:40 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 21-11-2009, 02:59 PM
Re: coolers - by centre court - 30-11-2009, 08:30 PM
Re: coolers - by Jansoe - 30-11-2009, 09:02 PM
Re: coolers - by gittermaster - 30-11-2009, 10:41 PM
Re: coolers - by gittermaster - 21-12-2009, 04:34 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 21-12-2009, 05:39 PM
Re: coolers - by gittermaster - 21-12-2009, 06:22 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 22-12-2009, 10:59 AM
Re: coolers - by harry_bierdop - 06-02-2010, 03:58 AM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 03-03-2010, 09:28 PM
Re: coolers - by centre court - 20-04-2010, 11:04 PM
Re: coolers - by centre court - 27-04-2010, 05:27 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 04-07-2010, 10:59 AM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 07-07-2010, 07:47 PM
Re: coolers - by Ekslem - 08-10-2010, 05:18 PM
Re: coolers - by Mac - 08-10-2010, 08:18 PM
Re: coolers - by gittermaster - 21-11-2011, 12:53 AM

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